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President Zuma! Your Government is corrupt – Gareth Cliff

Gareth CliffGareth Cliff’s letter to the South African Government

OK, I get it, the President isn’t the only one in charge. The ANC believes in “collective responsibility” (So that nobody has to get blamed when things get screwed up), so I address this to everyone in government – the whole lot of you – good, bad and ugly (That’s you, Blade).

We were all so pleased with your renewed promises to deliver services (we’ll forgive the fact that in some places people are worse off than in 1994); to root out corruption (so far your record is worse than under Mbeki, Mandela or the Apartheid regime – what with family members becoming overnight millionaires); and build infrastructure (State tenders going disgustingly awry and pretty stadia standing empty notwithstanding) – and with the good job you did when FIFA were telling you what to do for a few months this year. Give yourselves half a pat on the back. Since President Sepp went off with his billions I’m afraid we have less to be proud of – Public Servants Strikes, more Presidential bastard children, increasing unemployment and a lack of leadership that allowed the Unions to make the elected government it’s bitch. You should be more than a little worried – but you’re not. Hence my letter. Here are some things that might have passed you by:

1. You have to stop corruption. Don’t stop it because rich people moan about it and because it makes poor people feel that you are self-enriching parasites of state resources, but because it is a disease that will kill us all. It’s simple – there is only so much money left to be plundered. When that money runs out, the plunderers will raise taxes, chase and drain all the remaining cash out of the country and be left with nothing but the rotting remains of what could have been the greatest success story of post-colonial Africa. It’s called corruption because it decomposes the fabric of society. When someone is found guilty of corruption, don’t go near them – it’s catchy. Making yourself rich at the country’s expense is what colonialists do.

2. Stop complaining about the media. You’re only complaining about them because they show you up for how little you really do or care. If you were trying really hard, and you didn’t drive the most expensive car in the land, or have a nephew who suddenly went from modesty to ostentatious opulence, we’d have only positive things to report. Think of Jay Naidoo, Geraldine Fraser-Moleketi and Zwelinzima Vavi – they come under a lot of fire, but it’s never embarrassing – always about their ideas, their positions, and is perfectly acceptable criticism for people in power to put up with. When the media go after Blade Nzimande, Siphiwe Nyanda and the President, they say we need a new piece of legislation to “make the media responsible”. That’s because they’re being humiliated by the facts we uncover about them daily, not because there is an agenda in some newsroom. If there had been a free press during the reigns of Henry VIII, Idi Amin or Hitler, their regimes might just have been kept a little less destructive, and certainly would have been less brazen and unchecked.

3. Education is a disaster. We’re the least literate and numerate country in Africa. Zimbabwe produces better school results and turns out smarter kids than we do. Our youth aren’t usemployed, they’re unemployable. Outcomes-based-education, Teachers’ Unions and an attitude of mediocrity that discourages excellence have reduced us to a laughing stock. Our learners can’t spell, read, add or subtract. What are all these people going to do? Become President? There’s only one job like that. We need clever people, not average or stupid ones. the failure of the Education Department happened under your watch. Someone who writes Matric now hadn’t even started school under the Apartheid regime, so you cannot blame anyone but yourselves for this colossal cock-up. Fix it before three-quarters of our matrics end up begging on Oxford Road. Reward schools and teachers who deliver great pass rates and clever students into the system. Fire the teachers who march and neglect their classrooms.

4. Give up on BEE. It isn’t working. Free shares for new black partnerships in old white companies has made everyone poorer except for Tokyo Sexwale. Giving people control of existing business won’t make more jobs either. In fact, big companies aren’t growing, they’re reducing staff and costs. The key is entrepreneurship. People with initiative, creative ideas and small companies must be given tax breaks and assistance. Young black professionals must be encouraged to start their own businesses rather than join a big corporation’s board as their token black shareholder or director. Government must also stop thinking that state employment is a way to decrease unemployment – it isn’t – it’s a tax burden. India and China are churning out new, brilliant, qualified people at a rate that makes us look like losers. South Africa has a proud history of innovation, pioneering and genius. This is the only way we can advance our society and economy beyond merely coping.

5. Stop squabbling over power. Offices are not there for you to occupy (or be deployed to) and aggrandize yourself. Offices in government are there to provide a service. If you think outrageous salaries, big German cars, first-class travel and state housing are the reasons to aspire to leadership, you’re in the wrong business – you should be working for a dysfunctional, tumbledown parastatal (or Glenn Agliotti). We don’t care who the Chairperson of the National Council of Provinces is if we don’t have running water, electricity, schools and clean streets. You work for us. Do your job, don’t imagine you ARE your job.

6. Stop renaming things. Build new things to name. If I live in a street down which the sewage runs, I don’t care if it’s called Hans Strijdom or Malibongwe. Calling it something nice and new won’t make it smell nice and new. Re-branding is something Cell C do with Trevor Noah, not something you can whitewash your lack of delivery with.

7. Don’t think you’ll be in power forever. People aren’t as stupid as you think we are. We know you sit around laughing about how much you get away with. We’ll take you down, either at the polls – or if it comes down to the wire – by revolution (Yes, Julius, the real kind, not the one you imagine happened in 2008). Careless, wasteful and wanton government is a thing of the past. The days of thin propaganda and idealized struggle are over. The people put you in power – they will take you out of it. Africa is tired of tin-pot dictators, one-party states and banana republics. We know who we are now, we care about our future – and so should you.

Article by Gareth Cliff

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  1. Seluleko Ngcobo

     /  April 5, 2015

    and who’re you? Mr Cliff… talking of the corrupt government , yes it is and should stop, all you said is quite correct…however the fact that some folks are worse than they were in 1994 . that touching… go read you book history . and you white, my God, what made those people poor prior 94? stop nagging , we all know the government is not right, but it all trace back in the hands of the white man

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    • Dawn Nicholls.

       /  April 6, 2015

      Yes all the things the white man brought, like buildings, transport, electricity, roads. Need I go on. What did you have before them. Is the word ‘arable farmland’ in any of your dictionaries…oh I forgot you don’t have a written language. Now you are going to wreck it all.

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      • Mogori

         /  April 6, 2015

        When I hear someone say they brought development here I always get an image in my head of the Dromedaris headed for the Cape fully laden with high rise buildings and stacks of tarred roads one on top of the other ready for placement. I might disagree with Gareth on the tone and content of his letter but what I appreciate is that he personalises the problems this country faces as our problems. Now I compare this to someone who speaks of bringing things here to you people and stuff and it becomes clear why some would feel so strongly about The Rhodes Statue. I doubt it has much to do with who built what as clearly neither Gareth nor Dawn have a Great Grandparent who toiled the soil in hard labour at some farm nor one who lay bricks at the construction of what ever building nor monument with minimum pay if any at all.
        It is about what these things symbolise to those closest to them. The basic premise should be that if its offensive….lets debate it and if we disagree then lets reach a nation building outcome or way forward.
        We need to wake up and smell the coffee….this boat is leaking in way too many places Gareth and you calling people bastard children is like drilling a new one with the comfort that its a small hole!!

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    • Paul

       /  April 6, 2015

      Seluleko,

      Please check your spelling. As Gareth said: the post apartheid educational system is pathetic!

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      • Nhlahla

         /  April 7, 2015

        The current education is pathetic than the bantu education, Paul you must wake up.

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        • Paul

           /  April 7, 2015

          What you say? You say bantu education was beter than current education? Can’t agree more. Its a pity that the ANC took away your higher education.

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      • john

         /  April 7, 2015

        grammar, spelling and opinions are not linked.One can express one’s views without any knowledge of oxford grammar.

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    • Leechie

       /  April 6, 2015

      Crap

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    • That’s it, Ngcobo, display the mentality that destroys everything it touches. The Japanese rebuilt their country after each disaster, beginning with WW2 and then the natural disasters we all know about, within a few short years. Your likes destroy a burgeoning country to the brink of total disaster within a few short decades and then continue to blame those who made it the most advanced economy in Africa for your own ineptitude, all the while trying to hide behind the handy screen of racism, ad nauseum.

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    • God help u and all of south africans if this is your true feelings.

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    • Beanie

       /  April 26, 2015

      Mr Ngcobo – With respect trace your own ancestory back – I think you will find you came from Northern parts – we are one colour in the eyes of the human, you seem to be rather prejudice – the white people came with much wisdom but because of the male dominance in the black tribes you have brought your own people down – the only way the human race will thrive is to educate yourself and all around you. I was taught to be kind to all and be kind to those who have less than me – think on try to be benevolent! May you be happy and peaceful in your life and help the world become one without conflict.

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    • attilio

       /  June 3, 2015

      brain dead moron

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    • Deedee

       /  June 3, 2015

      Wow… You just made a classic example of yourself. And not in a good way.

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    • Bongi (A young African man with a vision)

       /  June 3, 2015

      Ngcobo he may be white but he has a point. We South Africans forget that the power is in OUR hands! The ANC gives us very little (if any) reason to vote for them at the moment. I feel that the stubbornness of the people that keep on voting ANC (and playing the Apartheid card) will be the downfall of this country. If we want to see change in this country, we have to CHANGE our vote! Why do you think the Western Cape is so clean with public toilets, proper municipal services, no potholes etc? Its not by coincidence, but by a decent governing party (DA). Imagine what change they will bring in urban areas (Gauteng) as well as more rural areas such as Transkei, Zululand, Limpopo and the FS. 50 million people may have unique opinions, but putting that into action starts by removing the rubbish from parliament and giving the power to people who will actually do their job (without being corrupt and lazy). There are countries who offer free education, housing, medical service, and maintain good public transport and energy infrastructure all with tax payers’ money. Imagine what this country will be like if the money is managed wisely. Instead we keep the MP’s pockets stashed with money, fuel Zuma’s Airbus and build him a R200 000 000 home! That’s ridiculous!

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    • Tracey Swart

       /  June 3, 2015

      Lets also not confuse the situation. Yes government far far from correct. One, it does not give us reason to over look their corruption because they were done in “once upon a time.” Secondly, man in general is not happy with what is happening by these idiots and selfish so called leaders, BUT 90% of the white men who were the dogs in the past, “have died” Lets stop the apartheid rubbish and burry it with that crappy white man trash. This is a new generation and we have moved on with different life views. Time you all grow up and move on. Get on with new positive life views. Lets wipe out “all” corruption, black or white, for a better future for all. Is that to complicated fir you to see? Lets stop fighting each other and get rid of the real selfish narrow minded idiots that rob from us all and from our home South Africa. We “all” want to be proud of our country. Gees a bit of common sense guys!

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    • Chloe Ahern

       /  June 5, 2015

      Hi everyone

      I am going to comment as a white woman (which shouldn’t matter at all) who’s family immigrated to Canada. I now reside in Australia and just returned from visiting South Africa last week. It was one of many return trips as I truely love South Africa. But sadly the population is stuck in a vicious circle of blame. How are the sins of the father continually being punished on the children? The fact that individuals both black and white blame each other does nothing to improve the country. Yes apartheid happened there’s nothing more to be said on the matter it’s over move on and build something great out of its ashes. I truely think that Nelson Mandela would be ashamed of his people and I think in his last years he was. His hope for the country was equality respect growth for all peoples. So stop looking at people based on their race look at them for their qualities. My grandmother is in her 80s and she now lives with her in the past ”maid’ she wasn’t a slave or a servant she was part of or family. Her children sat at our table they were and are loved they surrounded our family in times of tragedy and rejoiced in each other successes. Her maid takes care of my aching grandmother just as my grandmother helped take care of her and her family. They argue like sisters and pray for the country they love that is disappearing in front of them. No longer can they go for walks outside of their gated communities, their grandchildren don’t walk alone to the park or enjoy community activities. It is now the responsibility of the current generation to look at these problems and determine why they are occurring! One has to be honest about who is commuting these crimes and why! How can these issues be addressed and it certainly isn’t with a government who has driven services into the ground. Granted jobs based on race rather than qualification, failing to educate the children they swear they work to provide for. No they wish to keep their money and power for their families their clans their people and forget that South Africans are all one people. Grow up get to know your neighbour black or white grow your communities make change so that people such as myself can one day return and feel safe and proud to show the world where my family comes from!

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    • MJ

       /  July 7, 2015

      You are delutional seluleko

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  2. Teboho

     /  April 5, 2015

    Mr ncgobo

    Remeber this is not about race( black or white) but its about the truth, I mean Mr Cliff here is damn right, the grvnmnt is corrupt nd dat is the truth dat we all can see nd now dat dere is nthing we can do about that nd now I am glad the he is seeing wat we see and he is doin somtething about it.. Again da fact that sum ppl are worse dan dey we b4 1994 that is also the truth man look at alex ppl stil don’t hav electricity no houses no toilets nd adas are riddin da most expensive German made cars some of those struggling ppl are the veteran of MK but dey r unemployed so let us all accept the truth… It is like dat!

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  3. Nhlahla

     /  April 5, 2015

    @ Teboho, i am trying to understand why are u saying that,it is not about race because it is about race
    because what happened where his party is in controlled in Cape town, Black people are being ignored. tell me my friend, who should drive those expensive cars if they are not allowed to drive them?only white people. Let us not be confused by this boy, i agree with Mr ngcobo, he must go and read history about this country and stop talking nonsense about our government.

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    • Tom

       /  April 6, 2015

      My fellow black brothers and sisters, Firstly i have to mention that the devil in me suggests to me that i smile everytime a white previously advantaged individual gets frustrated about black peoples incompetence, i see it as results of their evil system, more like their ghosts are returning to bite them on their flat ass…..they made it their business to refuse us proper education, they enjoyed freedom of movement whilst we were confined to small crowded areas like pigeons, which affected our ways of thinking, the next thing they expect us to shed off the virus in a day, THEY MADE US TO BE LIKE SO, let them share with us the offsprings of their forefathers investments.
      Then my intellect whispers: dude we all stand to suffer here unless we do something about this, which makes Gareths letter quite relevant, let us be objective here folks, truth be told, we and Our black ANC are doing ourselves bad. Yes our ANC leaders are corrupt, but come now guys, so are we. We live by corruption everyday, we buy driving licenses, we buy matric certificates, we buy tenders, we buy stolen goods, we bribe police officers, everything we do has got to be fastracked with colddrink money, (Whites included), It seems a minor transgression in the eyes of 1 person doing it but it grows to be a virus with most of us buying convenience at the expense of our childrens future. Our mindsets need to change, we used domkrag to overthrow the apartheid regime but we cant continue to run our government, our lives like so.
      We need to acknowledge our shortfalls as a black community, we are results of apertheid,that is in the past now, let us liberate ourselves lest we continue to be enslaved, lets take individual responsibility in every act we do, small or big, witnessed or not, it starts with us, the same “us” whom is going to bear the next leaders.
      I cant see how i can cry over a corrupt president if my next door neighbour is selling nyaope right under my watch and i do nothing about it, if my “CIDB” grading went from LEVEL 2 to 6 overnight all thanks to my connection somewhere, if i contributed to the R5000 to buy my sisters nursing job.
      Let us learn from our white mafias, let us be constructive, apartheid didnt succeed by one mans efforts only, they acted as a unit to make sure it worms its way from the union buildings to every corner of S.A, they all contributed, evil as the system was, each and every one of them knew and understood their role. Which is why the system was a such a success such that it continues to produce fruits even after 20yrs since its death.
      President Zuma cant do it alone, neither can Zille, or anyone for that matter, lets wisen up. Even Zumas incompetence wont stand against a nation united which knows its power.

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      • attilio

         /  June 3, 2015

        another moron

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      • vjvjvj

         /  June 4, 2015

        Tom,,, come on!! i commend you on your initiative to produce a positive outlook on SA,,, but the way you say it…come on man…although there are white racists, the majority of us are not racist at all(as so for black people)…we just want peace dude. Get over this hatred towards white people, im 18 so i never lived through apartheid, please stop blaming us about issues that the government today has not solved. If you are a black person with an education in today’s economic world, you are almost guaranteed a job, which i totally agree with, but this playing the victim card is getting really old. Lets get over what the leaders of yesteryear did to us and move forward as a country……for fucksakes im just soooo over this thing called race. We are all humans created by the same God….ps sorry for the swearing…im just really over this whole race issue it eats me to the very fucking nerve, i just want us all to live as respected human beings who look down on others who use race as a scapegoat.

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        • Tracey Swart

           /  June 4, 2015

          My word I read a comment from a 18 year old and I see wisdom. Well done boy. Then I see a older man talk about the devil in him. Well sir, that just about explains you. You are evil! I am a pure white women and would adopt 10 black babies to love as my own. Their colour would not make a difference to me. That’s if I had the money to do so. Could you ask Zuma to give up just a section of his wasted riches so I could achieve just that? As it is not colour that I see. It is the people who need me BLACK OR WHITE, PINK OR PURPLE. GET A WAKE UP CALL. WHERE WERE THE DAYS OF MANDELA. HE WAS BLACK AND WE LOVED HIM. The new generation that is. What he stood for was love. Some of you guys need to learn the meaning of that word and show your mothers proud. The kids of today need us. Think of that hungry child for once instead of yourselves. Every time you about to open your mouth think!

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    • Beanie

       /  April 26, 2015

      Ms Nhlahla – have you seen or have you opened your eyes to how many white people are begging on the streets and being murdered in their fields pray-tell!

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  4. lady P

     /  April 5, 2015

    You guys are not reasonable. Garreth said honest truth. Instead you try come with solutions you critisize each other. Nhlahla grow up, garreth didn’t say those cars should be driven only by whites. He just gave a point. Those people in power are living luxurious lives they don’t care about me and you. But you still apploud for them. Try come with solutions on how we should solve issues and all live normal lifes. Mr ncqobo and nhlanhla it seems you guys live in surbabs you don’t see how people are suffering outside. Try visit rural areas and see what Garreth is talking about. We should all start thinking out the box for better SA

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    • Nhlahla

       /  April 6, 2015

      @Lady P, i do not know which country you belong to because as black person i know what this government of ANC has done for the people of S.A especially disadvantaged people under the administration of President Zuma, new schools, clinics, university have been built, the number of black students going to university has been grown tremendous. Two of my cousins who come from very bad background, they are both graduates from UKZN, without the help of Jacob Zuma Fund they would not make it. other millions of students are being help through other scheme of Government known as NSFA, social grants plays an important roles in our communities. i am very confused why you claimed that they do not care about us. Why they should not live luxurious lives because they are working? This white boy was not looking for solutions as you claimed, please read this misleading article properly but he come up with his baseless conclusion such as our education is disaster, BEE has failed to mention but the few. with all due respect Lady P i think you must grow up and start thinking out the box. This people has done a lot for us and they are continuing doing so and that why we South Africans, will continue vote ANC. We recognised that there are some challanges and there is a lot more to be done for the people of this Country, Mandela said” inde lendlela esiyihambayo. This article of this boy belong
      to the dustbin.

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  5. No Name

     /  April 5, 2015

    I am worried by how blacks protect ANC as if they are blind, honestly Garreth isn’t the only one to say this. Renaming street/ provinces cost billions but still our government is happy to waste that money like that and to achieve that they make sure that poor workers are ripped off at tax level, but I guess people don’t know that to rename things is expensive than providing proper education than this rubbish we have nowadays. Renaming things is expensive than providing more policemen to protect us but we don’t see that. Renaming things is expensive than providing proper health care, but still we have leaders who take that little that come from our tax and use it. Worst of them all, instead of providing proper solution to Eskom, our government will be wasting billions in investing to Solar energy and Russia (if that’s even the right spelling, but who cares) will be owning this idea and have lifetime investment in South Africa’s economy. We blacks we are so blind that we don’t release its our future,,,,

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  6. Shirley Kongthong

     /  April 5, 2015

    Eish!. Blame throwing for 20 years at those old dinosaurs of the past…….while those in the present just sit and laugh and take all they can….watching and taking, watching and taking…. watching the masses squabble about who is to blame for the poor, while taking all they can to build their palaces and stash their bank accounts. PEOPLE WAKE UP!!!!…..They WANT you to keep blaming the past. That way your eyes are not on the present or the future! You are too busy focusing on the past. There is still SOME GOOD money left in this country! SARS still takes a healthy amount of money each month, from companies and those who work. Look around and take note of who is taking all that money that is still floating around. The rest is gone! The old money is GONE!!!! Long gone! You cannot bring the dead back to life and you will NEVER get the money back that has already left the shores for Europe and the Americas! Those whites that had the intent to steal from South Africa and are for some reason still in South Africa, have long ago stashed their money in safe Swiss banks. Those that are still here with no intent to harm the country in any way, are still here (with their money) because they have a flicker of faith in the goodness and intelligence of the people, and because they truly love South Africa! Focus on what money is still inside the country, and what industries are still worth saving. (Remember you cannot eat bricks….so the huge infrastructure is of no good, and worth nothing, if nothing is being produced and there is no money to buy food!) And then STOP the corruption that is currently taking place and pulling South Africa into ruins. Soon there will be no money for government schools, hospitals or worthwhile roads to drive on. All state institutions are already virtually extinct or dying as we speak! Soon there will be a small elite of ultra-rich government officials, and the same mass of loyal voters as there were 20 years ago, (together with their next, younger generation), all still living in poverty (this time with no schools or hospitals ….and maybe not even any electricity) and still blaming the dinosaurs who are long dead and gone!

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  7. Madigoe Walter

     /  April 6, 2015

    Mr cliff I don’t have much to say…..but let me leave you with only two words :::: your the man .

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  8. Mr Gareth, thank u very much for addressing such an issue, I couldn’t have said enough myself. I understand u are a white citizen of SA, yet u state issues surrounding mostly the blacks, that touched me a lot because I never thought even for a second that someone with ur great stature will one day speak up to this madness leadership we’re under.
    I’m a young man coming from a rural place in free state, with ideas on how to change this “slowly but surely” drowning country of ours, but the question is who do we turn to? The ANC folks? We’ve tried that for several times, but we’ve been knocked down. I’m wondering, do people have to be in power for them and their ideas to be taken into consideration? I liked what u stated when u said the people are the one who put our so-called president in power, therefore he should serve us, not his wallet.
    Its time we stop blaming the apartheid era for a second and face the reality, whenever things aren’t right we blame apartheid, whenever things are practically ok we have ANC to thank, come on let’s be reasonable guys. What are we doing to change the situation???? Sit back take a box of popcorns with soda and just watch the downfall of our own bright future? No! We fight for what is right, not in a ruthless manner but strategically.
    Thank u.

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    • Leandre

       /  April 6, 2015

      That is what you people need to start seeing. It’s not about being black or white or Indian or whatever . Why does everyone still go on about that. We are a nation. The people – all of us. We all are suffering. When we talk bad about the government we don’t talk bad because the people in charge are black. We talk bad because they are not doing a good job. I really don’t care who is in charge as long as they rule with a iron fist and start caring about the country and all its people. Not just black or just white. All of us equally. I’m a mother and I worry for the future of my child. Especially now. I wish the race card would stop coming into play everything the ANC make a mistake. We are not in charge anymore. We as the people all want the same thing and that is change.

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  9. onesimo hlamvana

     /  April 6, 2015

    Let me jst ask these questions,How many times have our president accused with corruption? How many times has he came up to clearify those acusations? How many job opportunities did he create…where there is smoke there fire,well this is too much smoke for me

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  10. activist

     /  April 6, 2015

    This is very simple, if u dont want the anc(used to write anc in capital letters but now I have no reason to do so) in power dont vote for them, eventually there’ll be enough votes to kick them out!
    The anc of the people is dead and gone, now its just a bunch of factions playing around with the lives of people.
    You can see it in zuma’s eyes that he has no respect for this country, thats why he does what he does(with no remourse).
    My question is “why isn’t anyone in the anc saying anything about NKANDLA?”. Its simple you speak against the president, you’re out! Nomatter how much cr*p he gets himself into, they keep quiet!
    When you think about corruption, dont focus on the things the media always writes about, try to imagine how much dirt is still under the carpet – the corrupt dealings that still havent surfaced of all these years the anc has been in power.
    POWER TO THE PEOPLE!

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  11. Sometimes we must face reality and state the fact,Garreth Cliff is quite right he’s telling the truth like any South African citizen.Protecting even when we see that our govt are not doing right won’t help people of South Africa but will bring us a huge set back.Let’s stop playing race card and face reality.

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  12. Inja ye Game

     /  April 6, 2015

    The government we are under, is so corrupt it forgot that people are sitting and thinking of throwing them out.
    The revolution will not be televised !

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    • Nhlahla

       /  April 6, 2015

      That is not true, we are not thinking about that, wait for 2016 izobona ukuthi abani ozowina omacimpala abaningi.

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      • Joe Slomo

         /  April 7, 2015

        Clearly you have a lot to lose if the anc loses grip of its diminishing voter base…its understandable that youre getting nervous and sweaty palms
        Who cares what colour the skin is of the party in charge of our country. If the country flourishes we all gain, black, white, pink, yellow, blue…or whatever your skin colour. If the government steals the tax payers money, chases away foreign investors who could create thousands of REAL jobs, spends millions on renaming cr@p instead of putting that money to good in disadvantaged townships, and the like; then Im sorry…if you still can find that you want to vote for anc again….then you must have your hand in the corrupt anc money pot too. Just be ready for the revolutuon coming your way and dont cry.

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      • Beanie

         /  April 26, 2015

        Gooodness gracious me Ms Nh you certainly have a bee in your bonnet – I think you must be being paid by the ANC mais oui?

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  13. mongezi

     /  April 6, 2015

    So true and if you so not have anything to dispute what Garreth is saying shut your dumb brain and mouth and stop using race card for expediency and sensationalist crap.

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  14. South Africans

     /  April 6, 2015

    If everything is turned into race then we as blacks should stop drinking milk,because every time someone make valued facts and observations about our beautiful but yet disfunctional country we go on the attack about race…
    Mr cliff our government is corrupt and change must be now

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  15. buttie

     /  April 6, 2015

    The truth is said,most ANC MPs are always protective to wrong by Zuma.Thats what they sign for they become MPs.eg.Look what did Nomvulelo Mokonyane have said/done .she protect zuma her buttock(marogo) nomater what.They blame Thulimandonzela for her report regarding Nkandla.

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  16. Mcebisi Nkubunga

     /  April 6, 2015

    South Africans,

    Gareth is right. .but he just insulted black people and called the stupid and beggars at Oxford Street. Thats ok though let’s pass that.

    The only solution here is to burn Nkandla, burn the ANC headquarters and burn the stupid parliament, maybe then the money could be used for greater good. We will remain stupid South Africans if we don’t take to the streets or Boko Haram this government. We should burn their cars, take the government down!

    I never burned anything…I hate burning things with respect to corrective justice, but its the only way. We gonna whine about how lazy the ANC is, truth is, from what I heard, they join to enrich themselves! Let’s turb the police and the army against them – this is insane!

    We don’t need the EFF, we don’t need DA, we need to unite and elect leaders while we are at the streets burning them down!

    We don’t need such a stupid President and doomed government – we need a government which consists of our youth that has honours at universities. ..that can move this country forward!

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    • Leandre

       /  April 6, 2015

      He did not insult black people. White people beg too I see them all the time. Our whole country is suffering. Everyone. Black and white.

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    • Joe Slomo

       /  April 7, 2015

      youre righglt…burn that corrupt home at nkhandla….its already falling apart anyway. people got their money and in a few years it will be rubble. our taxpayers money is gone by zumas hand. let him feel our pain too. he could have built 5000 houses in our townships with that money…but tried to play God with burnt taxpayets money.

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    • The burning mentality is as stupid as the corrupt one – it eventually destroys our whole country and economy. Those who refrain from voting instead of voting against the ANC display equal stupidity. Your most powerful weapon is your vote: use it wisely.

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  17. amanda

     /  April 6, 2015

    When I read the comments, with the exception of one or two, I still have faith in our country. If the rest of our youth can only wake up and realize that we have a beautiful country, and stop blaming the past but work together for the future. Go back to respect for each other. Mandela had a dream, but where we are going, well that was not the dream he had for us

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  18. Nkhumeleni Collin Lekgetha

     /  April 6, 2015

    it is trite that black South Africans suffered under Apartheid. Point is here it seems as if the struggle of the people was sorely for the benefit of the few. Black or white, the country is going to the dogs, state, peoples, resouces are breing looted through corrupt means while we sit hear writting comments on the internet?

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  19. Nkhumeleni Collin Lekgetha

     /  April 6, 2015

    The hear, instead of here is to drive home the point of what education or lack thereof is doing to the people. After all Mr Cliff used usemployed instead of unemployed. Its a typo people, apologies. Tltltlt i guess im no politician.

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  20. sibusiso

     /  April 6, 2015

    My father is an electrician.works under Howard electrical.no double pay even on holidays.Herbet nkosingiphile mncube served Anc as a secretary in 1994 at umlazi township.my father is my role model so that makes me feel sad to see the organisation being turned into a playing ground . Gareth is right,But we can’t solve this issue if the conflicts are not resolved within the organisation.like to appologise to Mr mbheki.in a traditional way.I grew up keen to be a politician but now I no longer.please stop with the fighting.grudges won’t build a stronger country and this is destroying our economy.

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  21. mpho

     /  April 6, 2015

    you know im tired of these melanin deficient demagogues acting holier than thou at the expense of my country!
    Mind you the country that practised socialism and new only it before many years ago today jan van riebeck landed here. That is when our troubles started.

    I can compartmentally state without hesitation that our country was doing peacefully fine before these capitalists came to our shore, robbed us of our humane ways and humanity, tried to remove us of the face of earth but still failed.
    We didnt care about the value of rand, and we didnt mind because we were a social country, rand meant nothing, we were doing just fine without it, we had our own humane survival ways. They introduced rand and made it run our country, the plan was to make the “kaffir” work long and hard to make the rand multiply for the white man,the semi-god.
    NOW THAT THE PLAN FAILED THEY ARE TRYING TO DEVIDE US SO THAT THEY CAN RULE AGAIN.
    Gareth cliff can ship back from wherever the hell he came from, president Zuma is not running cliffcentral, he is running a country, jy moet so maar voetsek!

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    • No Name (Zulu young man born in the 90's).

       /  April 6, 2015

      You are the worst of them all you know, the problem with people like you is change. You hold grudges of the past and we on about grudges of the present. Useless you’re, I wasn’t born in the Apartheid era and not interested in what happened then Bt I care about the money I pay through tax because I worked hard for it and someone up there is not going izy on it.

      What happened back in a day was happening to everyone and hence the wise faught for peace. If you don’t have peace, you are not wise and keep it to yourself for we hold no grudges of the past but current affairs affect us and will destroy our future and children’s.

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      • mpho

         /  April 6, 2015

        you know wether you like it or not the social ills of the past are directly resultant for the ones of the present. We cannot separate them unfortunately.
        And you can call me whatever you like but i REFUSE to be blindfolded by a white man little speech of how rotten our country is especially apportioning almost all those social ills to one individual. That cannot be true, the ills of our society is as a result of a very large complex issues, most of which comes from the very past that u feel we shud ignore.

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    • Paul

       /  April 6, 2015

      Mpho,

      I truly understand your inner pain. But remember if people with vision, structure, organization skills, plans for the future etc. etc. did not set shore on the cape coast , you my dearist friend will still not have a propper roof over your head, no Mercedes or BMW, no medical aid, no tar roads, no steers burgers, no soccer fields, no street lights, no TOILET etc. etc.
      So think of it this way: if “we” leave “your” country, who is going to maintain everthing for you? Who is going to manage imports & exports? Because you said you’re not interested in the Rand? So in otherwords you can’t trade or purchase anything? And you said this country is “social” and you have your own “survival” ways? Thats exactly what will happen if “we” (people with vision) leave this country. And remember, no vision and no work = resources (food & water) depleted! How you going to survive?

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      • mpho

         /  April 6, 2015

        paul

        you see my friend that misconception is held by you and so many others, black and white alike, but it is totally incorrect.

        What or how do u think we survived before all the electricity, the high ways,skyscrapers and mecerdeces??huh?
        Or do u suppose we came into existence post technology?? A resounding NOT sir.
        Weve been here since the begging of time.

        Granted, the technology has made our lives a lot better but my argument has always been that had we had not known it, we wouldnt have missed it because you cannot miss something u dont know.

        The curse and the blessing of all that you came with to our shore is equally proportional.

        Before “they” came to our land poverty was a foreign concept. This weekend the whole village would gather at Mokoena’s yard because the Mokoenas have slaughtered a cow and the next weekend they wud go to mofokeng’s household and so on and so forth,

        young orphaned chilren would be taken in and raised by neighbours, we didnt have streetkids, the black society had their own way of surviving and living harmoniously and social solidarity and cohesion, other words, Ubuntu, was inherently the most important principle and component of the entire country. Not money. We couldnt miss it cos we didnt know or care about it, or any of the things youve mentioned. I guess the point im tryina make is dat

        We were doing Just Fine!

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        • Edward

           /  April 6, 2015

          mpho lol face book me please(Edward Seshoka E&T), i like your logic n perspective of life, they wont understand what you are saying but i do. they too westernized to do so anyway. i feel the same as you do, we were just fine my man, half the black people are unhappy coz they feel poor. poor because they dont have cars, clothes, rent money etc ect… honestly we were happier thou and in life happiness is all that matters not materials the curse of civilizational is far greater than the blessing of it to black people.

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          • mpho

             /  April 7, 2015

            Edward will do that my brother,
            on the same note, we as Africans need to start addressing this misconceptions concocted to brainwash our children and that have so severely metastized to the point of malignancy and has become cancerous.
            For the sake of future generations.

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        • john

           /  April 7, 2015

          well articulated… we didn’t have cancer, high cholesterol due to the steers burger he’s refering to and Aids HIV.
          we use to eat fresh vegetables.

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          • Paul

             /  April 7, 2015

            Great my friend! Awesome! So then why do most government officials love steers, KFC, Nando’s, Mcdonalds? And are overweight like fat bush pigs? Why dont you go back to eating vegtables? Or start a farm and producing vegtables and selling it to your government? You’ll make millions! Then you start selling farm franchises and grow your veggie company so big it will totally take over the fast food market!

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        • Paul

           /  April 7, 2015

          Ok, I hear you. So sell your car, close your bank account and stop working for money. Go back to your old stone age ways of surviving and go have some cow meat at the Mokoena’s place. And dont reply, cause stone age people did not have internet.

          Thank you.

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  22. sj

     /  April 6, 2015

    Mr Cliff u r de man

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  23. boss zonke

     /  April 6, 2015

    I say amandla to mr Gareth Cliff 🙂 all those who are against mr cliff are scared 2 face the truth

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  24. petzana1@gmail.com

     /  April 6, 2015

    Gareth is an emotional white south African, who just hates that blacks are in charge, your energy is wasted in negative things rather than positive issues, SA is in a good space than before apartheid, and he is just furious cause we are raising the economic and land issue, which is the direct consequence of white oppression, the reason why him and white people are rich today at the expence of the black majority and that Mr Cliff is the real reason why SA is at the its current problem despite tireless efforts at government still status quo remains blacks poor and you still rich, corruption I don’t condone but to single it as thee main problem and conveniently forget the real cause that your fore fathers stole and killed our people and that is where the problem starts.

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    • No Name (Zulu young man born in the 90's).

       /  April 6, 2015

      Had U known, pitty its hidden from th public. Who is running ANC? Is it Zuma and his crew members.. Nah, I don’t think so. If it were so, we wouldn’t Hv companies like Sanral stilling from our country for we wouldn’t hv known of them.

      Wake up, Ths country is run by Greed behind ANC, ANC crew is jst a bunch of puppets sponsored by affiliates like th ‘Gup…’ Family and other scumbags we knw nt of, certain portion of th tax we pay, money frm dept. of transport n other institutions goes to these scumbags… Yet u sy black men is running th country, U r a joke like ANC.

      South Africa wil soon hv affiliation with Russia through solar energy and guess wht, we wil b loosing billions of dollars jst bcz SA failed to help out Eskom Whn called fr help and hw many more affiliates are to come n benefit Frm our economy whn we are stil praising failure of our leaders.

      U r jst blind like Mpho up th comments.

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  25. First i want to thank Gareth for his time and effort for the article, there are a few things that could have been said better yet i feel that it’s time to remove the sugar coating and keep it real.
    Secondly i want to thank all the people for their comments and insight on how we all feel different about the situation not just as an individual but as a community and as a country.

    My reply to most of the negative comments, whether it be about race or rich and poor, no matter what color if you got the cash now you not worried about what the government is doing, it does not effect the pocket like the poor people… why? They have the resources to hide that money and not let it get touched by the anc..

    I see that there are mixed feelings about apartheid…. I think it’s time to let that card go now, some of you mention that “Gareth is a Rich white man” and ” he states this letter so that he can be even more rich when Zuma is out!” hahaha to be honest if i was Gareth right now, with his status and bank balance i would not care about what the Government in SA is doing, go and buy myself a place in another decent country, and start building a life there, so for him to take the time to write the letter and take flack from “small minded individuals” tells me that he has real balls and loves the country for its diversity in all its colors.

    No then about the education ( i can see some still need more there… ) but i had 2 guys from Finland visit me this weekend and we had a talk about the difference in education on the 2 countries SA vs Finalnd… Finland’s education is free, so tax payers money goes to free education and its of high standard, where in SA we pay tax for nice cars and 3 new planes for the president to go and chill in when he travels.

    So for those who believe that Zuma is doing a good job, continue to support him for as long and as much as you like, no one will belittle you for doing so, i will pray for you to see that things have gone a little south more than expected when zuma came into power, not the anc… Mandela was a best president the country has ever seen, i just hope that someone will come into power to try and better the score that Mandela has set on the score board rather than just hog the game to be noticed by others.

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    • No Name (Zulu young man born in the 90's).

       /  April 6, 2015

      If the next R Ramaphosa becomes president then we should put hope for after 20 years. He b worse, guy who denied his tribe.

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    • Nhlahla

       /  April 6, 2015

      @Secretza, Musa ukuphupha.

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  26. Dankie Mr Cliff. This is not a racial issue but the issue that affect all South Africans we shouldn’t be running away from the fact that Zuma is doing nothing for us except for himself, family and friends of his.

    Yes what whites did to our forefathers years ago won’t be washed away just like that.

    If Zuma do really care specifically about us “blacks” he should have already brought changes to many of the rural areas including Nkandla. If he is doing well why lots of people are complaining over the same thing over again?

    This thing needs to be dealt with Enough is Enough.

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    • Nhlahla

       /  April 6, 2015

      Sizwe boy ungaya even in USA people are complaining mfana wakithi. you can not make everyone happy. South Africa is not the same. abantu bakithi abamnyama nabo sebathola irespect njengezinye izizwe. ISouth Africa inkulu kakhulu abantu must wait for their turn and most importantly must learn to do things on their own. Iminyango seyavulwa.

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  27. Napster

     /  April 6, 2015

    I have to say that i almost lost hope in the ANC however i came to joburg and discovered that the government has not yet failed South Africans, there are initiatives in place to reduce unemployment and i am a beneficiary of 1, i agree thr is stil a lot to be done ans eskom is crippling our economy.

    South Africans are lazy especially blacks, i am black and trust me i have observed this for years, i am a student and in my class, students would rather copy than doing the actuall studying, we are demoralised and we always blame other people for our shortcomings.

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  28. Mpho

     /  April 6, 2015

    Damn! I so wish that ass of a president call Zuma could read this letter.

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  29. calido

     /  April 6, 2015

    Its so heartbreaking to see all u guys tlking bout 1994 apartheid , rhodes zuma cars and all dat u can can complain about , which the actual fact ALL BLACKS and ALL WHITES are foreigners is REPUBLIC OF SOUTHERN AFRICA….1 thief is crying bout how much how long the ada 1 stole…”Ek is n trotse kleurling en julle weet eers nie dat julle DIEWE is “long live KHOI SAN LONG LIVE” ….the TRUE inhabitants of SOUTH AFRICAN SOIL…so zuma anc steals as much as u can I dnt care coz u stealing from year white foreign friends dat came after u ,,,and u whites take da buildings and investments and sell nw….mxm julle “domkoppe” julle huil vir fokol….da ppl u tryna tlk on behalf or for , who is suffering can’t even afford a loaf of bread,whilst u hve airtym bundles laptops computers smartphnes etc. To even write diz nonsense….”Have u eva went and sponsor a child school fees for a year buy a hme 12kg of maize meal….wtz so eva …dnt b sad if he steals mre dan if dey stole mre dan ,,,,coz bth u are thiefs “WHITES AND BLACKS” nxxa

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  30. Tom

     /  April 6, 2015

    My fellow black brothers and sisters, Firstly i have to mention that the devil in me suggests to me that i smile everytime a white previously advantaged individual gets frustrated about black peoples incompetence, i see it as results of their evil system, more like their ghosts are returning to bite them on their flat ass…..they made it their business to refuse us proper education, they enjoyed freedom of movement whilst we were confined to small crowded areas like pigeons, which affected our ways of thinking, the next thing they expect us to shed off the virus in a day, THEY MADE US TO BE LIKE SO, let them share with us the offsprings of their forefathers investments.
    Then my intellect whispers: dude we all stand to suffer here unless we do something about this, which makes Gareths letter quite relevant, let us be objective here folks, truth be told, we and Our black ANC are doing ourselves bad. Yes our ANC leaders are corrupt, but come now guys, so are we. We live by corruption everyday, we buy driving licenses, we buy matric certificates, we buy tenders, we buy stolen goods, we bribe police officers, everything we do has got to be fastracked with colddrink money, (Whites included), It seems a minor transgression in the eyes of 1 person doing it but it grows to be a virus with most of us buying convenience at the expense of our childrens future. Our mindsets need to change, we used domkrag to overthrow the apartheid regime but we cant continue to run our government, our lives like so.
    We need to acknowledge our shortfalls as a black community, we are results of apertheid,that is in the past now, let us liberate ourselves lest we continue to be enslaved, lets take individual responsibility in every act we do, small or big, witnessed or not, it starts with us, the same “us” whom is going to bear the next leaders.
    I cant see how i can cry over a corrupt president if my next door neighbour is selling nyaope right under my watch and i do nothing about it, if my “CIDB” grading went from LEVEL 2 to 6 overnight all thanks to my connection somewhere, if i contributed to the R5000 to buy my sisters nursing job.
    Let us learn from our white mafias, let us be constructive, apartheid didnt succeed by one mans efforts only, they acted as a unit to make sure it worms its way from the union buildings to every corner of S.A, they all contributed, evil as the system was, each and every one of them knew and understood their role. Which is why the system was a such a success such that it continues to produce fruits even after 20yrs since its death.
    President Zuma cant do it alone, neither can Zille, or anyone for that matter, lets wisen up. Even Zumas incompetence wont stand against a nation united which knows its power.

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  31. calido

     /  April 6, 2015

    Secretza , u are brainwashed…issit my spelling or nje u dnt get wt m saying if so ,,,,u shud stop /nt decode ok…
    “You african /blacks cry that south africa prior 1994 suffered under apartheid regime and the white capitalist or settlers that came from europe stole what was rightfully yours “black south africans”…and you suffered under the white monopoly rule. But I know that the majority of “black south african don’t even know where they originate from. Yes blacks are africans but as much as fingers are pointed towards whites who , came and claim land and steal from the true inhabitants of south africa you should not include ethnic groups such as zulu xhosa sotho pedi tswana….etc. and regard these ethnic groups who lost out under that rule. Fact of the matter “my opinion” you all fighting over something you came and stole from the TRUE INHABITANTS OF THE SOIL OF SOUTHERN AFRICA…..I don’t care bout cars money monuments electricity tax money “because that is all a total abomination of the true purpose of creation”…..u gonna die and leave it all behind , my provocative is this country is “yours” now so claimed but ,you all foreigners of this SOIL……I care not bout any political and social or whatsoever government…I use/d this opportunity to express my opinion over stupidity and greed pointing fingers of those “brainwashed individuals who can not even help their own neighbors or family”….but can come on site and talk and make claims and gestures and point out who is failing who when , how, and for ho long….
    Lesson for you / homework for ,which I believe u going to need a dictionary to decode this read what is written on the CODE OF ARMS than tell which language that is , the meaning and why .
    As 4my writing ,dat u asking 2b decoded stupid u…-ts clld “emancipation of I mind nd xprssion of my” tinkin…
    “Kemet-Nu”
    Oops that means “know thyself”

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    • Calido yes.. “know thyself” i really dont care what happened in 94 or who stole what, i was born here so i come from here, then as Native and every one sais, its about the corrupt government that is taking hard earned money from all races to have 3 new jets to fly around in…. So lets start living for today and the Future to come, and not worry about who did what in the past and who should be punished, God said “revenge is mine and mine alone!” so if you feel that you need to go and avenge your family for land that was lost 50 years + ago then by all means go and do it and have fun doing it, or spend that time and energy changing the future for every who lives in the country TODAY. And we all of today right now are not foreigners to this land as i came into this world and land same as you did !!! And when i talk about decoding your message its towards your spelling, if you are going to type the way you do you will not be taken serious in any form, for example… “”Secretza , u are brainwashed…issit my spelling or nje u dnt get wt m saying if so ,,,,u shud stop /nt decode ok…””

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  32. native

     /  April 6, 2015

    I guess this letter is not all about black or white…its about corrupt government

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  33. Roof-Top

     /  April 7, 2015

    “Our youth aren’t usemployed, they’re unemployable” I saw a spelling mistake also but I didn’t judge your literacy on it, yes you are somehow right hence pointing fingers doesn’t necessarily mean you are not part of that corruption too, what are you doing to educate our kids as an icon? Absolutely nothing but disrespect!!!

    Using the race card & our history makes you sound just like the ANC, for Dawn Nicholls saying the whites brought buildings and all he claims makes me believe that without a University Degree I’m still more intelligent than a few assholes out there. FYI: Mr or Mrs Dawn Nicholls, civilization started in Africa & that has nothing to do with our corrupt government or the roots of corruption in our government. You are merely racist Mr or Mrs Dawn Nicholls & think that you are not from Africa, it is people like you & those corrupt officials that deserves to be chucked out of our country. Mr Gareth Cliff I know that you have the platform to address our socioeconomic issues but why can’t you find the right platform to communicate with the cabinet/parliamentarians? Request a meeting with them & show them what you see to be mistakes & suggest solutions to them, that will show respect & maybe when you get to articles as direct as this you should be showing us a proof of communique between you & them. Mr Gareth Cliff you have the power & the right platform, use it like a wise man & maybe you might get the right results.

    Dr Albert Einstein said it before that if you find yourself doing the same thing time & again expecting a different results is insanity & in this case you have a written an open letter to the President saying the same things you are saying now, guess what? You are going to get the same results which is being ignored & a social talk at the ANC’s social gatherings, what are you teaching our kids? That you are the same as Julius Juju Malema & you know the right channels to address issues but still choose the wrong ones?

    Wow!!! It’s high time we as South Africans all races(white/black/Indian/Coloured or otherwise) unite against corruption, the next time you right anything to the President or his Government should be through the right channels with signatures of people like us who share the same notion requesting a day in Parliament to ask questions and give suggestions. That’s what I thought freedom fighters died for, being able to speak in the so called transparent government. FREEDOM is what they called it…

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  34. GOMOLEMO MEREKO

     /  April 7, 2015

    Our President should just step down already. I am sick and tired of the way he is running this country of ours, and I don’t need to mention alot of things that he is doing wrong but just one, E-toll.

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  35. Mzwakhe

     /  April 7, 2015

    Sometimes frustration does lead to anger which altimately inspire audecity in an individual such as in this classic example here.

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  36. calido

     /  April 7, 2015

    Secretza I really envy your intelligence I so wish I could be able to utter and make use of vocabulary as u do ,for instance words like “sais” and your knowledge of history that go as far back as 50+ years plus and you stating or claiming nativity on the soil of SOUTHERN AFRICA well that been said , can I. Again please , clarify that when I made mention, of my non interest in politics and who is doing what, I don’t care , this platform I use to express my own views on people like you who can say what happened in the past or even can foresee the future but still empower , the very same ANC ,very same ZUMA ,very same GOVERMENT , and vote for them because you benefit from being alliances by voting for them , whether GOVERMENT is BLACK or WHITE …your eyes became wet ,because THEY benefit more than you now , you who empowered them….do not be bitter about the situation ,and act as if you care , for CITIZENS OR FUTURE of COUNTRY , while you can’t even help or even donate for the man on the corner BLACK or WHITE…we all are not equal in the eyes of society and social economy even worse , “I am reminded of animal farm – SNOWBALL and NAPOLEON that is a true reflection of SOUTH AFRICAN citizens (my opinion) who worry themselves and cry over GOVERMENT OFFICIALS who is corrupt….don’t publicly cry out and hide or keep quiet when u secretly benefit/ benefited in whatsoever way. Don’t be a hypocrite and claim you have never benefited in any other form in this country , just because u are not a recipient of a PRIVATE JET OR NKANDLA home ,,,, or even a street named after you or a STATUE made for honoring or remembering your FOREIGN FOREFATHERS .
    MY POST WAS ABOUT THE GREASTEST THEFT OF ALL TIME WHICH CAN’T BE TURNED BACK BOUGHT BACK FOUGHT FOR ANYMORE WHICH IS , THE LAND OF SOUTHERN AFRICA THE LAND MY NATIVE THE KHOI AND THE SAN. WHO WE KNOW SEE FOREIGNERS “bantu and europeans” MADE CLAIMS OF NATIVITY OF THE SOUTHERN SOIL OF AFRICA . I do not care about tax and jets fuel prices and e-toll, poor education systems etc. No matter who will be president or who will GOVERN it is all the same……
    “I hope I and I don’t make this personal ,and keep is civil my fellow african or european” comrade

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  37. calido

     /  April 7, 2015

    Before I wrongly address you can I please withdraw : my fellow african , european comrade. And rightfully say : MY FOREIGN AFRICAN, EUROPEAN ,who claims nativity OF MY ANCESTORAL NATIVE COUNTRY OF THE SOUTHERN AFRICA.

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  38. Erik Saether

     /  April 7, 2015

    The land of our Earth does not belong to anyone. It belongs to everyone and to no one. We are just lucky enough to have use of it – while mankind still survives on this planet. Also “white” South Africans will need to find a way to apologize or we will also always be allocated blame. Once you apologize, blame loses its potency and you can look forward to future without guilt. #Truth

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  39. calido

     /  April 7, 2015

    INHABITANTS…..NOT OWNERS : if referral was/ is made to the comment addressed to SECRETZA , biblically we can claim that the land ,earth is for all and anyone . But all mankind was placed accordingly and survived accordingly and lived accordingly to the environment. which they found themselves , they survived in their own surrounding, greed and hatred drove them apart and saw them invading manipulating deceiving even killing ,mankind in their own profound sound and peaceful habitats…which is the case of the today world ,,,which traces back millions of years . Even LUCIFIER got chased from his habitat in heaven because of jealousy hatred greed , came and influenced the very same mankind creatures of YHWH on earth so through corruption and deceit the earth is what its is today because of the spirit of evil greed and one wanting to be in power , and rule…..GOD creation. Again no one is claiming ownership and neither do I “CALIDO” all I speak is the truth of the true “PLACED NATIVE CHOSEN INHABITANTS OF THE SOUTHERN PART OF AFRICA” the humans that was placed here even before AD and BC.

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  40. Mr Wiggels

     /  April 7, 2015

    oh my goodness can all of U just about grow up and stop with the black white thing. We all still one. U know what I’m a clrd and I was really young in the apartheid era and never really understood what happened there till I was much older. Mr Cliff is really not picking or insulting at anyone but only speaking the truth. I feel all he said was just the Truth and for those of U that are against it are the people that are actually forming part and parcel to all the BS. That’s the only time U guys are quick to jump when ur faults are being pointed out. Yes we not all perfect yes we all can try and be. Look at what’s happening as we speak. Dead statues that are standing all over Africa in rememrence to peopl who tried to make a better future not only for me, not only for him or her but for U and ur kids, y the hell destroy some thing that done absolutely nothing to U. Look at Zumb bying new plains and crap for his cabnet, U guys want to be treated special cause U don’t wane fly with the national carrier. Now I ask how much money is being spent unessasry. Also y the hell was inkandla put up. For what good reason. U can use all that money U use to get more cops, more health care fercilities, more job opportunities for the less fortunate. Try and make a god damn change man. Is this really how u wane live ur life not knowing what could happen tomorrow. Guys it’s our president an yes I have great respect for him but if u busy with shit U need to be dealt with. I could really go on about this Bt what diffirence is it going to make cause we really just going to be looked past. Our country is really being messed up and we need to put a stop to it asap. It is evident that mr president is really not ready to be in power Bt hey this is his second term serving as president. And who were the peopl that made him president? Who? The same damn people that’s complaining about what he does and does not do. I really can go on Bt what’s the use man. Ai. I’m

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  41. Make no mistake, we would all drop our sh!t if all of a sudden we were attacked by a neighbouring country.

    Most countries in the past get their sense of “togetherness” or identity because of an extreme concentrated civil war, something we as South Africans did not experience, miraculously!

    We are however, and have been for more than two decades been at war, albeit, a very slow one. Had we had our concentrated war, a lot of blood would have been shed in a short space of time but the blood runs down our streets everyday anyway.

    But, if Zimbabwe decided, or any other country for that matter, decided to attack us tomorrow, it will be the quickest we all drop our racist crap and we would stand together as one against the bully from the outside, the same way the world would stand together should our earth ever come under attack.

    We will drop our sh!t. In 100 years from now, our childrens children will not understand how we could ever have thought the way we think now. You can see that in the way developed countries think.

    And in that lies the answer. Mandela saw it. He saw that the answer is in the education of the youth because these are the people who we can influence the most; who bring greater hope.

    For most older generations there is not much more that we can do but manage the situation because most people are too afraid to change their ways.

    Make no mistake, every dynasty has had its day. It is in our nature to bring down those who have become too powerful or those who speak the truth.

    The ANC will fall and most likely the DA will come into power. They too will do good for a while and I hope it will be for a long while but the wrong leader will bring them down too and someone else will take their place.

    The best we can do is to educate ourselves and the youth. Think, think, think, think differently. And when you think you are done thinking, think again. History has a nasty way of repeating itself.

    Watch TED talks.
    Watch BigThink Talks.
    Watch Toastmasters speeches.
    Read books about great leaders.

    Choose a better life, choose better leaders. Great leaders inspire people to become great leaders themselves. Do you honestly feel inspired by Zuma…as much as you feel inspired by Nelson Mandela?

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  42. activist

     /  April 10, 2015

    After all is said and done, after zuma has allowed this country to be run to the ground on his watch, we(every citizen) stand to lose – no one wins! Lets unite as south africans.
    The real perpetrators are the guys pulling zuma’s strings(the guys behind the scenes), the imperialists who actually have a say(about stuff that matters) in the country.
    We can point fingers all we want but the REAL WEALTH of the country leaves SA, and goes to the guys who own mines and give the government loans to run the country.
    I wish we had an indipendant government like Zimbabwe has(Thou i dont agree with everything Mugabe does), i like the fact that HE is the one who makes the dicisions of the country unlike the anc!(thats why mugabe is so disliked by the western and europe leaders and zuma is embraced).
    What happened to “the people running the country”? Isn’t that democracy???

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  43. The SA government may be corrupt no doubt but please do read the Sunset Clause you will learn more on how the Whites made this country poor thus, many blacks are still poor even now

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  44. Bongi (A young African man with a vision)

     /  June 3, 2015

    We South Africans forget that the power is in OUR hands! The ANC gives us very little (if any) reason to vote for them at the moment. I feel that the stubbornness of the people that keep on voting ANC (and playing the Apartheid card) will be the downfall of this country. If we want to see change in this country, we have to CHANGE our vote! Why do you think the Western Cape is so clean with public toilets, proper municipal services, no potholes etc? Its not by coincidence, but by a decent governing party (DA). Imagine what change they will bring in urban areas (Gauteng) as well as more rural areas such as Transkei, Zululand and the FS. 50 million people may have unique opinions, but putting that into action starts by removing the rubbish from parliament and giving the power to people who will actually do their job (without being corrupt and lazy). There are countries who offer free education, housing, medical service, and maintain good public transport and energy infrastructure all with tax payers’ money. Imagine what this country will be like if the money is managed wisely. Instead we keep the MP’s pockets stashed with money, fuel Zuma’s Airbus and build him a R200 000 000 home! That’s rediculous!

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  45. Eric

     /  June 4, 2015

    We can all sit and read all the comments written here, attacking each other saying this and that. I honestly believe that we are all sitting on a ship like the Titanic and sailing in rough waters. We have the Captain and the senior crew members who should be looking at the “road:” ahead. We have the Entertaining member the workers, the Engine crew etc. Everybody has a job to do and a role to play, if the ship sinks we will all die, if the Captain is not on the watch the whole time, we will hit icebergs and we will all sink with our ship.

    Our ship is not indestructible, but if we keep on doing stupid irresponsible things we can only go down, then blaming each other cannot undo the mess and we will all be fighting each other to survive. We need a Captain who cares for his crew, his ship and the People who paid to be on it.

    It’s actually such a complex ship; I cannot help but sit here and wonder how can we turn our situation around?

    I believe we need to fix things, not cover them up anymore, justice must be fair and swift, tough honest decisions should be taken about critical issues which are hurting (Death penalty, E-Toll which is ridiculous, poor behaviour by people in trusted positions, etc. etc.),

    We need to see examples made of people who are bleeding this country dry, we need to accept we are all different and use these differences to makes us stronger and no longer divide us, we need answers, we need real leaders to make tough calls to help and uplift the lowest ranking members of our society, we need to increase employment with those who want to work, we need to build bridges between ourselves and build up real trust and stop blaming each other…

    I can go on and on… BUT that won’t do much good right now I quote from the following well known statement”

    Winners vs. Losers… (Google it, and if we all stop being losers and take on a winning attitude, half the battle is already won…)

    I want to be on the winning side, losing sucks and this country hasn’t got a good track record at all, we always losing. It’s time to think like a winner…

    May God be with us all and if we vote, may the right party win for all our sakes.

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  46. XAndroid

     /  June 5, 2015

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  47. BV

     /  June 20, 2015

    That blacks came from north Africa is rubbish given the fact that the great migration start from southern Africa to other parts of Africa and the rest of the world. It is these kinds of facts manipulations that piss me of with white people…

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