The ANC will survive Zuma – No it won’t: ANC and DA debate SA’s president
President Jacob Zuma’s career will survive all the scandals around him‚ which is a sign that his rule by patronage has infiltrated the entire ruling party.
Q: You heard there from the ANC treasurer who says essentially that Jacob Zuma will survive this?
A: It shows the fact that Jacob Zuma is no longer an exception to the ANC. Jacob Zuma through a patronage network has captured the entire organisation – in fact the leadership of the ANC now exists to serve Jacob Zuma. So it’s in fact becoming more and more so that it’s not just about the survival of Jacob Zuma – it’s a question of how can we quickly and affectively get rid of the ANC.
Q: If people are starting to ask you whether the ANC has lost its credibility – it has lost what it set out to do‚ then isn’t it right to say “we have to sacrifice one man because the future of the ANC is more important”?
A: Where I agree with you is that there is not one man who is more important than the ANC.
Q: So if Zuma did go would you say the ANC can survive and flourish?
A: You can look back… you can look back at Madiba‚ you can look back at Mbeki‚ you can look back at Mothlanthe. There has never been a time when a South African president who comes from the ANC has not been criticised heavily. Madiba was taken to court. We were shocked that anybody could think of that. Madiba never got 100% of South Africa’s votes. Whatever people say…they liked him so much‚ Madiba only got 69% of the vote at the time and I can guarantee you if he had continued he would not have gotten the same amount.
You can see the full interview on BBC World News on Saturday June 4 at 16.20 GMT